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Offline kappy0405

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« on: November 01, 2006, 02:54:48 AM »
so i went to the grove on halloween and the cops appeared to only be parked by the electric towers by the entrance to the main path.. i have also seen them park in the rubio woods parking lot or even in the median of the street where it goes over the pond/creek..

i was just wondering if anyone has actually seen cops walk into the forest or cemetary to patrol it or simply guarding the entrance is the only way. also what kind of fines/tickets has anyone gotten caught received?

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« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2006, 09:56:01 AM »
Why would they bother to walk into a haunted cemetery?

Nah, they probably fear the place more than the adventurers.

Whenever their boss(es) make them do Halloween or other duty, they'll be a bit vigilant, but I've seen video on YouTube of people CAMPING OUT IN PUP TENTS there.

So it can't be that well-guarded.

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« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2006, 02:14:54 AM »
It's basically a roll of the dice.  Weather comes into play (the ordinary squad car officer wears dress pants, spit polished loafers etc.  Not the best uniform to go bashing and crashing through the woods with, especially if wet and muddy).  Your method or level of stealth (did they actually see you enter and have a visual on you or your location?  Are you making yourself a good target, standing in the open, flashing cameras or using flashlights? ) Motivation (Are they there for a reason, or are they just on a regularly scheduled patrol. There may have been some vandization or other factor that has them amped up and looking to bust someone.)  
And just blind luck.  You just picked the wrong night to visit.  
I do alot of night hiking not just at the grove but all over. (The woods come alive at night.  More animal movement, more sounds, sights.) Have seen both extremes.  The time I slept in the grove, was spotted entering and had to  lay low in the weeds. The officer only swept the area with his spot light and at first authoritatively  commanded, then when that didn't work, pleaded over his squads PA system for us to come out.  We were no more than 10' away from where he was parked, but he never saw us, and never got out.  He finally gave up and drove away.  (of course that was years ago.)
But then, too,  have seen (and eluded) officers on ATV's, Horses, and camo'd up on foot.  Usually they don't make such a concerted effort unless there is some serious, and reocurring problem happening in the area, but you never know.  The grove might be targeted some time.    They also have a new camera system (see link below )  

http://www.co.cook.il.us/Media/06_relea ... urity.html

 These have been employed  in trouble areas to combat poaching and other serious illegal activities in the woods.  The Cameras have infa-red abilities and can be pulled up real time on the in squad computers.  (Although...I wonder what other worldly images they could pick up at the grove if these cameras were ever deployed there!  And if they would release them to the public if they did pick up something...)
The bottom line is to remember they are just doing their job.  If you can avoid contact, do so, but don't be an idiot if you get caught.  It's never a good idea to mess with them and piss them off.

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« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2006, 08:25:13 AM »
i actually did get in on halloween with no problems and stayed there for around 2 hours or so.. it really isnt too hard to get around the cops parked there but if they were in the cemetary itself there might have been a problem.. i was just wonderin if anyone HAS actually seen them in there to patrol.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2006, 08:17:32 AM »
Were you in at night Kappy?  And i did see a cop standing by the towers with a flashlight during the day at about 3:30 Chicago time.

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2006, 01:26:29 AM »
ya i was in at night, i made topic about it a few weeks ago... the cops werent too hard to get around.. but i took it pretty slowly as i got towards the actual cemetary cuz i thought maybe they would be in there as well.. but they werent it was clear so i stayed for around 2 hours....

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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2006, 07:29:13 AM »
Awsome, i think if you were in the cemetery wearing all black and the cops came in, it wouldn't be to hard to hide from them.  getting in and out is probably the biggest problem though.

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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2007, 12:42:47 AM »
I got near Halloween by the cops INSIDE the cemetary.  The walked out of it and caught me before I could get in.

It was rather funny cuz they tried to scare us.

I was solo but there was a group behind me, they got freaked, I knew i was busted.

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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2007, 09:26:17 PM »
Go in off 147th St. Take the creek across from Gealick Park.
I have never seen a cop watching from that angle.

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Re: cop patrol
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2007, 03:02:05 PM »
the past 2 nites i have tried to get in..... both times at around 9 30..... both times, two police cars were parked side by side with their lights pointed at the entrance outside of their cars talking to eachother....... is there any other trails that would take me back there???....i have went a few times very late at nite and there is no sign of anything... not even a car on the turnpike...... possibly just scheduled patrols but is there any way around them other than going through the thorns and jungles????

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Re: cop patrol
« Reply #10 on: October 09, 2007, 06:47:28 AM »
there is a subdivision just east of the grove.. There is a spot you can park in the subdivision on the other side of Central (i think its central).. but if you walk down that street towards the grove, there is a path that leads behind a few houses into the grove. this takes about 20 minutes longer, but its worth it. I've never had problems getting in bg.

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Re: cop patrol
« Reply #11 on: October 10, 2007, 03:24:17 AM »
The trail u are talking about that leads behind all the houses...... thats the trail i take...... but i am talking about once u have basically hit the towers.... there is a clearing you need to cross.... the past couple nights... cops have been parked in Rubio with their lights directly on the clearing in the path........ i was just wondering if there are any splits in the path (behind the houses) that will take you directly to the cemetary entrance path??....I was not going to vere off into some unknown path...... so thats y im askin......


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« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2007, 06:05:46 AM »
Guys:
     There are several ways to get in and avoid detection.  All depends on your your skill level with a compass and/or GPS, or you willingness to get a little sweaty and dirty.  Basically...your commitment!
     First off,  if you can get a friend to drop you off somewhere near the grove, and then wait for your cell call to pick you up, the problem of parking no longer applies and many more entrance routes open up to you.  
     There are several good maps on this sight that show the layout, and for that matter, you can even use google earth to get a visual as well as Longitude/latitude numbers (for GPS).  If you know how to use a compass, you can easily find numerous start off points around and near the grove to take a reading and bushwack in.  Much easier on moonlit nights obviously.  
     Also, there is a creek that runs north/south along the western edge of grove.  You can walk the bike trail that runs along the north side of Midlothian turnpike and duck in under the bridge that spans the creek.  Wear dark or camo clothing.  Stay to the woodside edge of the trail and keep an eye out for obvious police cars.  If you see one, step into the woods, crouch, and you disappear.   Have done it many times.  This creek is also great when the water table is low in the summer.  You can sometimes even walk down it.  Either way, it's a great marker.
     Another, easier, surer way to do it, is go to the grove during the day, and bushwack  backwards towards a landmark/entrance point of your choosing.  There are many deer trails that lead out to the street at various locations, as well as back to the soccer field south of the grove. Get to know the route and use it at night.  
     The tower (and the light on it) make a great reference point at night.  When in the woods, look up.   You can also use the sounds of the cars on the turnpike to keep yourself orientated properly. The biggest "no-no's" are using a flashlight or making alot of noise.  However, the biggest mistake people make with a flashlight is shining it up, or at eye level.  So, if you must use one, get one with a red or yellow cap and crouch low and shine it down at the ground to find the trail.  Holding the light perpendicular to the ground, about 10" high when in the cover of the trees will let you see the trail as well as any obstacles.   Lights up in the trees can be seen from far away.
     The other thing good about knowing these trails is that you have more than one "escape" route should the county's finest decide to come calling.  (again, see note about getting dropped off.  Being able to choose your exit point and time are a great advantage to escape) I am not being too specific here exactly for that reason.  
(I find it funny that on a public board, some of you guys are telling the FPPD exactly where you park, what trail you're going to enter on, what day your going--next full moon-- etc.  Might want to rethink that.)
All of these take a little work and effort, but trust me.  Being in the grove at night, in silence, undected, without outside interference or interdiction is well worth it.  
Good luck

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Re: cop patrol
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2007, 11:21:51 AM »
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Re: cop patrol
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2007, 06:47:12 AM »
I went there once at night with a group and got down and dirty and a little lost.  We just picked a random point of entry around the subdivision behind it into the forest and just went in the general direction until we saw it.  There are a few reference points like the stream that should lead you there if you hit that first.  In any case, I don't even think it's all about "getting dirty" so much as I think people get the heebie jeebies and get all Blair Witch flashback in the forest.  The forest surrounding BG is not all that dense and relatively small.  If you are not jumping at every creepy looking branch and noise, you should be fine.  Hell, if you go with me, it seems like a sure bet not to have any "paranormal" tailers as I seem to have some sort of spirit world BO or something that keeps them away.... sad.....